William Penn If it doesnt work out, I will leave.simple. I guess when you cant win the argument with facts, you chose to deflect and go to other things. And, the tax benefits are very differeny between S corp and 1099 agent. The only difference is the fact that you do no have to make the mold, the whole business plan. I am curious you said before you are mission orientated. Your way is you are always looking out yourself. Why would I leave a company if the benefits are not increasing? You follow someone else, or copies it, and this allows you not to make the same mistakes they did. But a salary cost the company money. We recruite like any business if there was no one at McDonalds you wouldnt get your food. You are right. I guess he is too busy caring about me to bother to call. Now you may think that is not a big deal, but getting a call monthly or a letter monthly about my insurance and wasting my time listening to a pitch that should never be directed to me is worth something. By the way if your agent told you to jump off the San Francisco Bridge would you? One is to take your position with great trepidation. b) Even if true. That does not make sence because females live longer than men. I can chose whomever I want to represent, that will meet my clients needs. Until someoen needs the money, it is only value. Get it? It seems you and Michael/Thomas have the same affliction. -. NO. To your family, yourself, your friends, or to your upline and company? Transamerica Life Insurance Personally id never build a business that way (and neither would you b/c you obvoiusly make overrides at your own establishmentso please dont even bother retorting back!) Primerica registers as a general agency, no different than State Farmnot an MLM. All those who did not raise your hands, go out and have an EEG to see if your brain is working. If you have multiple emails you can make it look like you have agreement. Prove it. By the way are your policies fully convertible and guaranteed? I think the cost is $99.00.. So is buying car insurance for a car you do not own anymore. They might be posting, and then getting contacted. May be you are Like Micheal someone that had to leave or could not pass the back ground check. )They do not have up to 7 years of the annual premiums as fees. You demotions since you do not hit your goal. Insurance is to cover a risk, and teh game plan is for people to have Cash when they are retiring, not an insurance policy, because everyone, with some cerebral ability, cash is king. I want to expose all those other criminals selling whole life and giving people their money instead, like it should be. That was a pretty good article. Many of us went in dumb and blind. Primerica is a divison of CITI, one of the largest banks in the world. I have the ability to offer more than just life products. These are hot referrals. He knew he could not be unknown if he was taped. I have been working for Primerica part time for the past couple of months and I am very happy. Theres also the part about massive recruiting. Primerica PLP But then I as I quoted before, Wall Street Journal said that the only people that think cash value is good, are those that sell it. ANd I know how to sell it. No, but her advice is free. . (And remember this does not include office and other expenses that are there for independent Agents) That includes only what Primerica does. Great lets talk about companies, policies and what is best for the client. Its about options. Again, Since you are not an Agent of Primerica, why should I even think you have the correct information? (This is where they sell a product cheaper so that they can harass you into converting. Your best appointments are from your warm market or from a referral. Losing a leg is not bad. And again these are little trained soldiersyou cant find a more dedicated rep than these two. Posted On: August 7, 2008 by Page Perry LLC WebDepending on the level of care needed, some assisted living programs will also provide around-the-clock medical attention and supervision or specialized care services. I am sure your clients would like to know. One reason I like Primerica is that we are reaching people that otherwise wouldnt buy inferior or superior products being offered by other companies. with Prepaid Legal directly. The industry has not only caught up to PFS, but surpassed it. But here are those questions that will check your honesty. Just like worrying about them, will cause you more problems than the actual problems., **Tom it is our responsibility to our clients to do a bit of forward thinking. Ive hired shy people who have been beaten down by society and have turned them into champions. 3. You may feel this is not money hungry, but anyone reading this, knows it is. I have triesd to explain loss leader to you before. Why go through all of the cost if someone doesnt want or need to? Residential Mortgage So you admit you have taken people from Primerica. A freshman with one econ 101 course could do circles around your fabricated knowledge of what you think is this whole financial realm. Since you are trained on selling it , this is what you sell. Hiding behind different email and different alias. Do not follow the people here but make an informed decision. And who it is good for. group vision, group dental, short term care products, commercial mortgages: These are good for business owners. Now if one company is table rating a client I may be able to shop it for them and see if another company is more competitive. We hope this will help you better understand the different levels of care in the NICU: Level I: Regular nursery care available at most hospitals that deliver babies. Matter of fact, most advisers that are not really cash value salespeople, ever really go after the middle american family. . The main reason Im excited about Primerica is that I have the potential to work up to RVP level where I can make 4 times the commissions on personal sales compared to starting position and at RVP level Im pretty sure Ill be making more or, at least similar money as these other independent brokers. They are supposed to be so scary successful, but they are spending lots of time posting their condesceding comments to this site. Like I mention earlier, it is at its peak. Just the facts, please. But if many people knew that they agent and bank was hiding info, packaging it deceptively, and families knew this would be the consequences, they would have said NO to the product. But I still do not trust you, and your numbers. I cant wait to get my IRA moved from the professional that I have it placed with right nowBy the way, I never hear from this guy. I know because cash value pays more than those pesky mutual funds. Nope . Only when I read someones response do I get a sense of what he said. Primerica RVPs usually have several offers for their business. Working out of you home is so ghetto. 1. primericas products are not the cheapest. What did you sales force make you? I may be a pain in the rear and you only wnat the lay down clients, but then again you do not sell value, you sell price. You found something that was better for you, and capitalized on it (going independent). I am having people contact me and wanting to compare what I can offer compard to what Primerica can offer them. They want to keep their homes, and not have to pay what they signed up for, ARM. I doubt it. Just like all those mortgage brokers who made millions on those people refinancing their homes. They do not get any of these sales. And hes accusing *us* of not caring for our clients!!! Only as a courtesy, I do not have to do this. Someone who does not make a dime where you goes, just cares that the truth is posted here. They do not need this crap.. So experiences of people joining the company, or using their services or encountering representatives, will all depend on the people that they deal with. outside they can. If you ask the question they can answer. I do the insurance part-time and it woks great for me. And You are not? Primerica's insurance typically costs more than comparable financial products, does not have conversion options, and only applies to low-risk individuals. Remember how they let their other businesses call them, so they may not make as much but they make more on the name in a list. As others have posted: its EASY to bash anything you never gave your heart into or never had good examples to follow, but I found Primerica to be like churches: not all that make you FEEL GOOD represent the best concerning CHRIST which turn many away, but it is WELL WORTH the effort to seek and find those who keep and practice the motto and mission of THE FOUNDER. Think it is so funny when people will talk and bash a company based of one opinion. The key to ownership is having control. non-guaranteed level premium beyond 20 years? Our competitor Smith Barney of course, a wirehouse, is reputable and where they send clients for investment advise and financial planning. But I have heard recently that Primerica has only 2% of the premiums out there but 6% of the Face value. I am not here to rag on PFS. Therefore will harass you until you switch from Term to Cash value. Primerica does not pay people for helping families. As for being unprofessional, I do notice you used initials, Are you afraid like Mike found out that people will remember what you say here and it will come to bite you in the butt. Do I feel bad leaving a family that, when I met them, had no life insurance and no savings, with at least a good life policy in place and a plan to get their emergency fund started, because they could have purchased a similar policy for $45 instead of $49 a month? Now if it has to do with money, or other insurances, they like to limit it. I know it is paraphrased but then I do not give my A game to some one that is in a C League. IF you wish to follow these two off the deep end please go ahead. Fine. It said I rather have 1 person of 100 men than 100% of one. Less than .00001. . 6. Which one is it? It clear to see that Tom does not master excellent communicational skills. Tom as always you dont understand. He never badmouthed you or your new career, and never said that what he was doing was any better than what you do. TIM (wink wink) here are some words you are having trouble with please take your advise and use spell check. I also couldnt hire P&C agents, mortgage lenders, accountants, bank tellers, or real estate professionals. You need to go read and understand your craft more. In most times they come at me with hype and emotion.. Look at comparable term Plans length of guarantees against what you can offer -, First, I do laugh at you and your fellow posters. Take care, and thanks again. I am very interested in the opportunities that primerica offers but I am very confused as to what to do right at this moment. If I want to sell products from some carrier that I do not use in my organization, I first tell my up-line to look at this carrier. -. Reasons that I have been given and that make sense on face value for the higher value of a Primerica policy are that there are very few to no exemptions, exclusions, hidden clauses etc. You must be afraid of my words or you would attack them and not the person. Hes says hes an educated consumer, so show us why would he choose Primerica life over AIG, Banner, West Coast Life or other term carriers that have: a) higher ratings than PFS Find out because you dont want to miss this. Hey, I may work for Primerica, but they do NOT own me. A sales person will lie and cheat to get your confidence. If you are shy dont join. YUGO vs. a BMW. Its like a doctor trying to have a conversation with a baby that was just born. Do you sell cars to the blind? A Debt Stacking program so they get out of debt. it seems that the old timers are the one that are very happy with Primerica. Allianz Life Insurance Company of America They do only carry products that are good for the clients. Price only matters in the absence of value. (i) the solicitation is of a Primerica Life insurance purchaser with whom you or your downline agents personally dealt on behalf of Primerica Life; See its all about options to fit the needs of the client. WHy ***How is that fair? I am sorry, but sales is one big recruiting pitch. Aside from those turn-offs, I like Primerica. If the company pays more they have less money to service me. Two different streams of income from two different companies. RECRUITING JUSTIFICATION: well lets see.. get the blind teaching the blind and say who am i to judge who will make it or not and yes then you can put your head on the pillow at night.. well, thats if you have no real judgement and are more motivated by what, oh ya, the dream of money and success; ah so hypicritical. We do not offer financial advice, advisory or brokerage services, nor do we recommend or advise individuals or to buy or sell particular stocks or securities. Our competitor Smith Barney of course, a wirehouse, is reputable and where they send clients for investment advise and financial planning. As for options: Offering some crap for food as an option is disgusting. 3. Bob Lotich, CEPF is a Certified Educator in Personal Finance and has over 15+ years experience writing about Biblical personal finance and is the best-selling author of Simple Money, Rich Life and has been named a top 20 social influencer in personal finance. About the same % of licensed reps that make $100K here. None. . And Yes I do know about it. For the most part youll be offering clients advice on how to take thier current income, cut every corner and plan for the future. (Their words) They also say that anyone that sells it are either a. an idiot, or being a theif. Tom says: Maybe you are right, but Since Primerica is like my company it does not give out its rates, they have a greater chance of being wrong.. ****So why do the PFS products cost more if they dont place ads and market from referrals? One of the reason why I buy insurance is so that I do not have to assume the risk. I was typing too fast because Im on lunch from my full time jail job. Its true. Run the numbers and add it up. NOthing that means more of his commissions go to his family. Marketing. If not then it is not an insult. ****You have no clue whats available outside of PFS. Debt ELIMINATION not just consolidation.Better, YES! As For James comment on Checkmate, I agree, He has lost. And most people want to earn more money faster. Yes you say find a entry level position in a reputable company but then I have to charge people $1500-$2500 and up in order for me to help them. you decide. , Again, You do not know Primerica. I otherwise would not have sought out investment advice or invested. I for one am determined to watch out for the interests of my clients Period even if its at the expense of a Primerica product. SeedTime Money (Christian Personal Finance). 3) Trailer fees on total investments portfolio. If that doesnt convince you of what is truly happening out thereregardless of your own (if true) random unfortunate experience with Primerica Financial Services. But here he is posting his opinions and his facts. I do know that you focus on price, and that is why you sell that way and you are comfortable. The reason I sale insurance is because I believe in my product, I believe in my carriers, and I believe that I am doing the right thing for my clients. Its another James. So what you MUST rely on is our ratings with the entities that regulate us: ambest, NASD, SEC, etc. Personally I only stay in 4 to 5 star hotels. Now as I know your going to go into the conversion feature. I am in sales. First point, do you know how much an analysis costs from any other firm? Challenge is Prove what you say: You said that the Deposit you give Primerica was $199, and only covered life insurance. You cant even steal a good quote. The trick is to find the perfect fit for your client not based on your commission but on what exactly what the client really needs. Using it for other things, is like using a wrench instead of a hammer. Oh and all this talk about how everyone else out there is Soo unhappy in corp america let me ask you your positions you had before.. mcdonalds and wallmart dont count as corp america. I mean you tote AIG. Since you said you offer these worthless products, does that mean you will sell what ever you can make a buck on? Since you cant win at the KT, you will win where you can be stopped on these boards. He failed to mention the company he suggests is failing, and they sell cash value. I am curious to see if I can make it based on what I ALONE produce. If you do leave and stay in the industry. Also, you can look this up, more million dollar a year earners at Primerica than any other company in AmericaAnd last but not leastonce you sign up, you can do as much or as little business as you wish..maybe 1 life sale in 3 years if you need extra cashwhateverPoint being whatever you do for a living is NEVER and DOESNt EVER have to be infringed uponYou invest the time YOU deem worthythats all. I bet you would. They not just sell a product but give advice. If their full-time job doesnt allow it how do they make it a year with PFS? In many states to offer the PPL plans there is no licensing requirement. My plan is to pay attention to what really works, and recommended it. So my coverage has grown and my monthly cost haas gone down. SCARY!!!!!!!!!!!!! Those that sell cash value in any form, do this. This investment includes commissions you may receive. Any competent adviser knows this. Primerica has been around for 31 years. They know what is out there and have been approached. Your clients must not since you focus on price here. . Do you think using a loophole is perfectly ok? It has gone from one license, to 5 licenses or products. As always you are independent contractors and you have the right to run YOUR business as you see fit. Ide really like to take a look at the FNA you had done, maybe youre confusing it with your boys over at edward jones. You need to get coverage if you break a nail? The pay out is less than 1% of 1%. Almost 90% of what he tells folks to doWOW, PRIMERICA has been advising folks to do for 31 years!!!!) Let me help you out Mr. or Mrs. NEVER annuitizes! The only winner in cash value is the Company and the agent selling the garbage. Important Disclosures Everyone here is pure and do nothing wrong. Its not about the products. Lack of spell checking is something that you can do easily. You say you invited an agent over so your PFS agent can confront the competing agent. This sounds like a religious term. You need to get your terms right. What does that Free Analysis cover? This emans they do not pay them unless they sell. Oh you mean the long de-mutualized company which is . Which one do you want to have? I do not know what agents you deal with, I can only account for myself. . Since my that is a waste, why woudl I want to work with a company that sells garbage? So why are you marketing to Middle American families? Trump is worth a lot more, but it a lot less liquid. They would get fired wouldnt they? stake in their own commissions, it is important for Primerica to preserve its customer base and avoid unfair competition. As I stated before your exactly where you need to be. You are comparing the small motel with 10 rooms, to the Ritz Carleton. But let us see what Primericans offer: IF you had you would have known what they do. Primerica is what most would call a pyrimid, but someone tell me what company is not. The average individual earnings of their representatives is $5,156 per year. I do hope you keep up the same work, since it is easy to replace an insurance policy that is sold as a savings. You get better service. trolling around these blogs and parroting the same exact things over and over. When you die you do not get it. Are you in sales? Maybe the Regular Joes dont like or trust you all and want to speak to folks they know and trust. So you do have pay him part of your money to get the training. Came to my house, gave me all this negative knowledge he had. Yours? I do understand since you are the donkey pulling the cart, but please try to understand that this is better than the beginning years. Credit card companies know this well. Did I read this right!?!?? Only out of respect since I liked her and an old boss of mine, I agreed to meet with her for lunch. I have already listed those of other carriers. HE CHOSE to make a higher commission off his own familyinstead of doing the best possible practical thing for them.so you wonder why go with Primerica? Becaused I know you didnt get up one morning and tell your spouse, I had a dream that Im suppose to save the world from a company named Primerica or like you guys like to call it PrimAmerica. Fidelity Security, Long Term Care There is an application for this product. Securities License, $400.00+. How about accuracy in something you write or say? Since AIG is losing money, I believe either 1.8 or 18 million I do not have those facts in front of me over the last three quarters, they are not some place I would want to place my families security with. Exactly how is it that you can do better? On that, did you know that none of Primerica loans are in trouble? Its another James. If by chance you come across a policy it would be in your best interest to be able to notice how it is designed. No disrespect to anyone. Or cant get a loan. Just understand in most instances (nothings 100%) I can replace your program, but you cant replace mine. If you re-read my posts, I never said that PFS was any better than another business, vehicle, or system. If you are a captive agent you only can sell that product. I am not sure what company you work for but I know Allstate does nto do that. 1. captive agent yes I signed a contract with a no-compete clause. A free analysis of their position. Sometime the client has no home. i like to go there instead of wal-mart even though I know that I can get the same thing cheaper at wal-mart. should the clerk tell you, You can get that cheaper at Wal-Mart? Having a person come to my house and take in consideration all financial factors in my purchase is better to me then buying the cheapest policy off the internet. standard plus non smoker And then their are those 5 pesky rules. I stayed in the same office that Ive been in since 2000. There are five year and ten year term. Yes we know the product may have some special formula from the high mountains of the moon, but its still just a product that has an inflated cost to pay the field force and make the company a profit. Using it your way does work but reminds me of the wrench as a hammer. Im trying to do as much research as possible, as I am still on the fence with joining or not. You help people with your lack of Knowledge? - Like it or not thats how the policy works. 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