the collecting and preservation of the rifle Mosin and all other Serial number 10780 This excellent example of a typical mis-matched Spanish Civil War Mosin Nagant, provided by 'martin08' of the Gunboards.com forum, offers an interesting look at just how varied that parts on these Spanish Civil War rifles can be. This is an early Finnish M91 with a Tikkakoski manufactured barrel. But, did Russia reuse serial numbers or was every rifle given a unique serial number? MatchingA rifle with all four serialed parts Military Preservation & Civilian Firearms Forums for Collectors, Post They did start at 1 in some production runs but they may have done that in the middle of the year and not necessarily in sequential order. Chamber, have no bore light to take a photo, but it looks good. stamped on the bolt body. than the typical four digits. was changed and the crest of King Ferdinand of Romania added. However, the older version of the Finnish military cartridge was loaded with the S-type bullet that had nominal diameter of .308. If you have mismatched serial numbers then the rifle had parts from more than one firearm when it was rebuilt. "The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants." Selling my 1943 Tula Soviet Union Mosin Nagant 91/30 Round Receiver all matching Excellent condition. authenticity or misuse of the site content or material found on the An increase in urban combat led directly to the development of the Model M44 Mosin. Mosin Nagant Serial Number Database Lookup Collector's Comments and Feedback: Mosin Nagant Production Numbers 1. As for specific serial numbers, the aresenals started each year at 1 and ended at however many they made that year. Start over. You answered Civil Guard. 23 sections, articles, photos, or information from this site may be used We have been entrusted with these historic treasures so we have a The "r" after the date loosely means "year of god" and doesn't indicate refurb. picture below? Thomas, this site has become one of the best known resources on the web After the Estonian War of Independence, Estonia had around 120,000 M/1891s in stock, later the Kaitseliit, the Estonian national guard, received some Finnish M28/30 rifles, a few modernised variants were also made by the Estonian Armory; Most Finnish Rifles were assembled by SAKO, Tikkakoski Oy, or VKT (Valtion Kivritehdas, State Rifle Factory, after the wars part of Valtion Metallitehtaat (Valmet), State Metalworks). { which was lined out and the last four digits of the same number stamped on the knob. historic military firearms. "[11] The new weapons would entail high velocities, exceeding 600 meters per second (2,000ft/s) and would result in land battles both commencing and being capable of being fought at longer ranges, nearly two kilometers. this site is to offer the novice and advanced collector an overview of It served quite prominently in the brutal urban battles on the Eastern Front, such as the Battle of Stalingrad, which made heroes of such snipers as Vasily Zaitsev, Lyudmila Pavlichenko, Ivan Sidorenko, and Roza Shanina. removed from the stock. The buttplate and magazine floorplate match With the second year of production (1954) China began to use Your $25 Instant Credit will be automatically applied at checkout. clicking on the correct answer and you will be taken to the next question for the final The barrel shank is arguably one of the most important areas for ID. any claims resulting from loss as a result of the accuracy or on it. Caliber. They were kept not only as reserve stockpiles, but front-line infantry weapons as well. The barrel is dated, a small square is stamped with a 27, 28 or a 29 inside of it, it is located on the bottom of the barrel shank. later time. Many of these rifles were built with older recycled M91 stocks which tended to crack under heavy bayonet use. 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In the 1930's, the Army's first line issue rifle was the M27 Mosin Nagant. I think the lowest number I've seen is a three digit number. prefixes when applicable. For example, Simo Hyh is credited with having killed 505 Soviet soldiers, many of whom fell victim to his Finnish M/28-30 MosinNagant rifle. them as well as articles about collecting and shooting them. Search Photo Gallery List; Photo Gallery Search. with that information. "catentry_id" : "3074457345624402237", last 3 digits. The colloquial name Mosin-Nagant used in the West is persistent but erroneous, as established in Check the barrel shanks below and compare it to yours. Between the adoption of the final design in 1891 and the year 1910, several variants and modifications to the existing rifles were made. number obliterated on the bolt number. So, for example, could you have a 1942, oldguns.net/sn_php/mildateslookup.php?file=us_m1917rem.dat. stock may or may not have a cut out in it for a folded bayonet. The Mosin uses interchangeable bolt heads like the LeeEnfield. Finnish Mosin Nagant Serial Number Database Collectors should consider the relative rarity of the M91/38 carbine when contemplating a purchase. rifles and were apparently assigned at random. With Remington and Westinghouse on the precipice of bankruptcy from the Communists' decision, the remaining 280,000 rifles were purchased by the United States Army. The markings on the left side of the receiver are the ones that concern you. arsenal (sometimes there is no arrow in a previous number has been ground off, electropenciled numbers, or numbers Contact Us shoppingListJS3074457345624401737 = new ShoppingListJS({storeId: '10651',catalogId: '10551',langId: '-1'}, {id: '3074457345624402237', name: 'Russian Mosin Nagant Carbine ~ M44 ~ 7.62X54R', image: 'https://assets.basspro.com/image/list/fn_select:jq:first(.%5B%5D%7Cselect(.public_id%20%7C%20endswith(%22main%22)))/3677812.json', type: 'ItemBean', components: {}, skus: []}, {}, "shoppingListJS3074457345624401737"); A cylindrical receiver, replacing the octagonal receiver (commonly called "hex", but actually having five octagonal top flats and a round bottom rather than three octagonal bottom flats. by BubbaDX Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:39 pm, Post [13], The Russo-Japanese War (19041905) was the rifle's first major conflict. So, for example, could you have a 1942 Mosin Nagant 91/30 with a serial number of 1234 and a 1944 Mosin Nagant 91/30 with a serial number of 1234. It was manufactured by three - P. 217. Remington used "No." above the serial number, which means "number" just as the "N". This is a Finnish any claims resulting from loss as a result of the accuracy or Then sometime in the late 30's and especially in the 40's it looked like the vodka was flowing at ye old stamping station and prefixed 3 and 4 digit numbers seemed to drift to the right where the last digit was at the wood line. This a Russian There are two versions stepped and unstepped. In addition, scopes tended to reflect sunlight when moved side to side, which gave away a sniper's position.[20]. As for the arsenal marks, Tula is a star, Izhevsk is a triangle with a lightning bolt. If The M44 was a late WWII modification that was only produced in Russia from 1944-48. is unknown and it's possible it is one of a special series that were numbered outside of There were two different barrel manufacturers. "re-furbished" Mosin Nagant, Tula However, the Mosin's lugs lock in the horizontal position, whereas the Mauser locks vertically. Here is an uncommon case where the original serial number An M24 with the Civil Guard District number struck out and You can compare the following Start over, You answered closed. This example is a M91/30 made in 1943 and was made in the Izhevsk marks are pretty much the same, 3) Tula Check out with Sezzle and split your entire order into 4 interest-free payments over 6 weeks. Since the "N" was not part of the serial number it is usually not speculation. [22], In the years after World War II, the Soviet Union ceased production of all MosinNagants and withdrew them from service in favor of the SKS series carbines and eventually the AK series rifles. All photos that are not credited are property of this In 1952 two characters were used for the prefix and the five if(typeof(shoppingListJS3074457345624401737) == "undefined" || shoppingListJS3074457345624401737 == null || !shoppingListJS3074457345624401737) { An order for 500,000 rifles was placed with the French arms factory, Manufacture Nationale d'Armes de Chtellerault.[9]. others that made receivers after WWII, and we will get into them at a Numbers Number 1 -- Unknown mark Triangle 1 -- 1871st ABV Moscow Military District Triangle 1 -- 103rd GRAU Arsenal 2 -- Unknown Mark -- (martin08) 02 -- Hungarian Arsenal Mark -- (martin08) It is one of the most mass-produced military bolt-action rifles in history, with over 37 million units produced since 1891. WOOD/STEEL. They did not just start a #1 and number them sequentially until the end of production. by Live_2_Ride Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:30 pm, Post by WeldonHunter Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:19 pm, Post The commission initially voted 14 to 10 to approve Mosin's rifle. See the. However, in spite of the payment, Nagant attempted to use the situation for publicity, resulting in the name "MosinNagant" appearing in the Western press. Lets start simple with the "parts" and areas of the rifle (those we for the use or application of material found on this site. As it is an older. Nice looking M44 with an interesting serial number. Middle Eastern countries within the sphere of Soviet influenceEgypt, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestinian fightershave received them in addition to other more modern arms. All photos that are not credited are property of this has the knob restamped with 862. found on the numbered parts other than the barrel. It is a cut down M91/30 and there are three variations as seen below. be all stamped matching or force matched. Cyrillic prefix lined out and a new three digit number stamped above it. Compare the markings below to determine where your rifle came from. Mosin Nagant Serial Numbers All content copyright 7.62x54r.net Marks Introduction Definitions: Matching A rifle with all four serialed parts (barrel, bolt, floorplate, and buttplate) numbered the same. a 7 digit serial number. Nagant's rifle was mainly criticized for its lower quality of manufacture and materials, due to "artisan pre-production" of his 300 rifles. This is a Finnish M39. Exact history - no. The bolt turns fully and appears to lock with the serial number facing . ElectropenciledA method of etching parts with a During the Russian Civil War, infantry and dragoon versions were still in production, though in dramatically reduced numbers. Your CLUB card has been saved to your account. Here is a picture of the marking. Of coarse the serial numbers and date will be Stock alone value of $1,000. 1) Izhevsk arsenal Mark 2) Serial number 3) Year made 4) Soviet Union crest This example is a M91/30 made in 1943 and was made in the Izhevsk arsenal in Russia. This is an uncommon case where a bolt head is If you choose not to create or sign in to an account, you can use your $25 credit when you receive your physical card in 7-10 business days. In Mosin's original design the spring was not attached to the base plate and, according to the Commission, could be lost during maintenance, rifle cleaning. Finnish rifles are characterized by Russian, French or American-made receivers stamped with a boxed SA, as well as many other parts produced in those countries and barrels produced in Finland, Switzerland, Austria, Belgium and Germany. I agree it is that barrel marking that confuses me.I am disassembling the mosin as we speak to look under the receiver, will post pics of any markings. This new cartridge was loaded with a new bullet designed in 1934the D-166, which had a nominal diameter of .310. Tikka : produced from 1930 until 1932, identified by "T" in a triangle on the top of the barrel shank. by BubbaDX Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:28 pm, Post That five digit number represents the importer's new serial number for the firearm. Interesting questions. more common later stepped barrel. In the comments I will post a picture of the serial number and markings. it does not match either the original or new numbers on the barrel. [46] Also, the MosinNagant action has been used to produce a limited number of commercial rifles, the most famous are the Vostok brand target rifles exported in Europe in the 1960s and 1970s chambered in the standard 7.6254mmR round and in 6.554mmR, a necked-down version of the original cartridge designed for long range target shooting. The buttplate was no longer numbered in later production but : Nauka, 1988. Overall, this is an excellent conditioned Russian M91/30 Mosin-Nagant rifle. Start over, You answered 1940-1943. Mosin Marks Some marks are "known" marks, and some are not known at all. The Civil Guard District number complete with the S prefix Feb 08, 2008 #3 All the numbers match. Hence, the title Mosin Nagant is given. Start [18] Spanish Civil War Mosins can be readily identified by the wire sling hangers inserted in the slots in the forearm and buttstock meant to take the Russian "dog collars" for Russian-style slings, so the rifles could accept Western Europeanstyle rifle slings. "Collectors Forum" - All Mosin Nagant are discussed here. We use your Support ID to provide faster resolution to issues experienced while on our website. It is a Czech M91/38 cut down from matching serial numbers on bolt, magazine, receiver and butt plate" $429.99. [49][50] Also available are bolt on muzzle brakes that reduce recoil and counter muzzle rise. I can't recall any of mine with more than four numeric digits though. Many of these weapons were sold to Finland in the 1920s. It's M44 rifle with a barrel produced in 1944 at Izhevsk (if you pull the action out of the stock, you can check the underside of the receiver tang to see if it's arsenal/year stamped to give an idea if it's original to the barrel). Suggested site content and search history menu. Finland did not produce bolt bodies and all of Any Mosin I've ever seen had the slightly 'wavey' serial number. [citation needed] Mosin could not apply for a patent since he was an officer of the Russian army, and the design of the rifle was owned by the Government and had the status of a military secret. Just would like to know where mine was made and maybe some of the history on it. Secondary serial numbers gunsmithing that were eventually discarded. Henceforth, the new Bolshevik government of Vladimir Lenin cancelled payments to the American companies manufacturing the MosinNagant (Russia had not paid for the order at any time throughout the Great War). An interesting side note is the "Serbian crown" mark to the right of the Mosin Nagant . Seller Description. So to further confuse things, could you have a Tula 91/30 with a serial number of 1234 and an Izhevsk Mosin Nagant with a serial number of 1234? It was, however, not without its faults. the new collector. Darryl Boyd 2011-2018. American and British expeditionary forces of the North Russia Campaign were armed with these rifles and sent to Murmansk and Arkhangelsk in the late summer of 1918 to prevent the large quantities of munitions delivered for Czarist forces from being captured by the Central Powers. We have some of the best experts here looking forward to your questions. by BubbaDX Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:55 pm, Post Original Russian Mosin Nagant PU Sniper Rifle M91/30 Arsenal Refurbished w/ Russian Manufactured PU Scope . the center of the star). This is a Finnish Also the Russian and "Finnish capture" SVT38 and SVT40. 1430 of 25 November 2003. You answered 1/2". Later Soviet production such as M38s, M44s, and M91/59s which receiver. numbers may or may not match it would still be considered Finn matched. Start over, New England Westinghouse Some details were borrowed from Nagant's design. later lined out and a new complete number stamped on the body. Mis-matchedA rifle with one or more of the three [21] When war with Germany broke out, the need to produce MosinNagants in vast quantities led to a further simplification of machining and a falling-off in finish of the rifles. 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