The case became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder. She goes to grammar school. There were soldiers still in the area after the war and they used to train in Penllergaer woods. Her body was eventually found in a nearby lane, but it was the discovery of her handkerchief in the shops shed which saw Jones accused and stand trial for her death. Thank you for listening to this episode of The True Crime Files. Hi Neil. She was last seen at 2:30 p.m., singing as she headed for the one-mile walk to her family's home, Tyle-Du Farm. The crime scene is a short distance from the farmhouse. "Each case is reviewed periodically. found on Muriels coat and D.N.A. Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the 12-year-old had been killed amongst the undergrowth at Penllergaer Woods whilst on her way home from school one June afternoon. It was the 75th anniversary this year, and still we are no nearer to finding her killer. Update: I have left it two weeks for the . It truly is baffling and I cant help but wonder what they are trying to hide (and why!). Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? Video, 00:01:18Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story, One-minute World News. A village-wide search was swiftly underway, and at 4:30PM the following day Muriels body was located in a Japanese larch plantation near her home. If the perpetrator was lying in wait as I believe he was, why select that certain spot? I have a special interest in this case as I too was brought up in Penllergaer. The Photo Request has been fulfilled. Then for 3 years he was registered at Colinette Road Putney as Harry Stevens. Adding: Please may I make a comment that the information that I request would be available via computer in an instant. Video, 00:02:56Detectives to revisit unsolved murder, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle. The perpetrator left cigarette stubs, sweet wrappers, and pieces of bread at the scene of the crime, which the authorities have said indicates that he was waiting in the dense woods for his chance to strike. This will enable the police to identify Muriels murderer by taking and testing swabs from the perpetrators sons, grandsons, or even great-grandsons. I personally think it was someone still in the area from the Second World war. On 29 August 2021, I sent the following email to Freedom Of Information at South Wales Police. A US Army Colt .45 service revolver was used to shoot Muriel Drinkwater, 12, in the chest, after her killer had beaten and raped her. The 12-year-old attended Gowerton County It was the first time he had spoken publicly about the tragedy that haunts his family to this day. Up Next. Video, 00:01:00, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble. 'Each case is reviewed periodically. Hi Neil. Request number 772/21. She was shot twice in the chest. The views expressed in the contents above are those of our users and do not necessarily reflect the views of MailOnline. An amazing campaign by Neil Milkins, but unfortunately, no breakthrough for Muriel. Harries was hanged in 1954 for the double murder of John and Phoebe Harries. The Little Red Riding Hood murder of Muriel Drinkwater. Do not sell or share my personal information. Regards. Thought to be one of the oldest pieces of crime scene evidence in the world, it was initially used to rule from suspicion someone who had been spotted close to the woods on the afternoon Muriel was attacked. Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was a choirgirl who dreamed of being a schoolteacher. A much loved, very kind and thoughtful person who did great things for people but never expected anything in return. Have a great week! Thank you so much for this detailed update. 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Thanks again and take care. "All historic murder cases, or 'cold cases', are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. . DNA was taken from the relatives of both Muriel and Ronnie Harries but the results have not been made public. Muriels niece Margaret is desperate to get the books back. On the back of the coat, a no-longer-visible semen stain was circled with yellow crayon. Roll on another 2 months for a denied request. [6] On 27 June 1946, Muriel took the school bus home from Gowerton Grammar School. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. He agreed to give a DNA sample that could rule out Muriel's father from the investigation. This means that we may include adverts from us and third parties based on our knowledge of you. "Given the sheer level of violence that he inflicted on his own relatives, I can't quite believe that this would be the first instance of his violence.". 0, Hi Tracey Thanks for reading and for sharing your thoughts on Muriels case. Neil Milkins. And please do not forget tosubscribe to the podcast and leave us a review. They have a suspect in the murder case and a cousin of the suspect has given D.N.A to prove whether or not the cousin Ron Harries was the killer. We use your sign-up to provide content in the ways you've consented to and improve our understanding of you. More recently, however, it was tested against the DNA of one Harold Jones, a convicted double child murderer who slayed two similarly young girls in Abertillery in the 1920s, to see if he might be the perpetrator. Hoyles told police that the man looked terribly stern and had a local accent. Although this person of interest could have just been out for hike or involved in some other unrelated nefarious activity, the authorities believe that he may have been in involved in Muriels murder. The coat had been lying forgotten in police storage for decades but after much searching was found by retired DCI Bethell's cold case team and is thought to be one of the oldest pieces of crime scene evidence in the world. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. Swansea 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater, who was shot after being sexually assaulted in 1946 Now, a team of former detectives and crime experts have re-investigated the case, dubbed the 'Little. On the afternoon of Muriels murder, thirteen-year-old Hoyles purchased eggs from Muriels mother at their family farm. I think it will be at least 3 months before anything definite will be announced. Hi. Jones and his wife Muriel hid a lot of secrets from their daughter and one of these secrets may have been Jones wasnt her father. ~ Christine. She disappeared around the bend into some more dense undergrowth. Two other specific persons of interest have been put forward. D.C, Paul Rogers, independent of Victor Penalunas theory, contacted me by phone and told me that his research had led him to believe that Harold Jones may have been Muriel Drinkwaters killer. There was another murder in 1943. She was singing . And the truth will never be known. The gym is tucked away in an unsuspecting industrial estate in the Swansea Valley and is run by a world-champion strongman who wants as many people as possible to feel included in his beloved sport. Mr Hall, who was intrigued by the unsolved crime, says friends of Muriel remember her as the ``perfect pupil''. Another wait and see. [3] In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest sample . Sorry I doubled up on some of the above but cant edit it. Im not sure how much of a farming business the family had or if they just casually sold eggs like many people in the country do. Even though Jones died in 1971, his male descendants DNA could be tested to determine if he was the culprit responsible for Muriels murder. Jones killed two young girls when he was just 15 and was jailed for 20 years. Video, 00:00:42, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble, Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race. Muriel Drinkwater murder: Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? Just a few thoughts, so we can deduce its a man, not too young to be weaker than Muriel, not to old because they would be frail, so we are saying middle aged man in 1946. Video, 00:01:00One-minute World News, WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech. Although the decision was made immediately it took nearly 7 weeks until 16 August 2021 to get a formal decision. Its her birthday tomorrow, and still no closer to finding her killer. left on the coat was compared to D.N.A. There must be other victims of this person as I cant see him stopping. Muriel Joan Drinkwater was raped in Penllergaer Woods, beaten about the head with a blunt instrument and then shot with a World War I Colt 45 on 27 June 1946. Mudgee General Cemetery. "[4] Police also circulated photos of the United States Army-issued gun; notably, perspex had been used to modernise the original wooden stocks next to the grip. Muriel Drinkwater was laying on her back, one arm outstretched by her side and the other slightly raised. The team are still investigating if this has any relevance to the case and are appealing for anyone with information about it to come forward. Welsh author Neil Milkinsargues that Harold Jones,a convicted murderer who killed two girls in Abertillery in 1921 when he was just 15 years old, was Muriels killer. [7], The next day, Drinkwater's body was found in the woods by a police inspector. Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? Police records from the time show that Muriel's mother was the last person to see her alive. Chief Inspector Bethell aptly explains, Re-opening the case is as much about proving who didnt do it, as who did. Remember that Hoyles was suspected of Muriels murder for decades and lived under a cloud suspicion that followed him everywhere he travelled in his small village. He could not be placed at the scene, and the DNA ruled him out of the investigation. Hi James. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. As always you can unsubscribe at any time. Unless he bludgeoned first then he raped, this would have caught her by surprise. Detectives to revisit unsolved murder. He could possibly be a rival farmer and or business owner, we can tell the Drinkwaters run a business due to the fact that Hoyles bought eggs from Margaret Drinkwater, near to the death of Muriel Drinkwater. Colin Dark suggested the possibillity of using D.N.A to identify who took the books into the shop with the hope of identifying the killer. Paul.. "And we know, even though it had been 60 years since it went into storage, that it is hers. From the statements of the day it appeared her mum was making a pot of tea and looked out the window and actually saw Muriel about 500 yards away coming up the track towards the farmhouse. The police found the murder weapon in the undergrowth near where Muriels body had been discovered. And shockingly the reply was that the information I requested was in written format and would take at least 16 hours at a cost of more than 450 to supply and my request was denied. Video, 00:01:00At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble. And police now hope a stain on Muriel's coat will. They never recovered. Both girls were murdered in woods within a half mile of their homes. Casey DeSantis says Ron looked like Tom Cruise in his white Navy uniform when then got married at Disney: Florida's First Family says venue was an 'ironic' choice, Ron DeSantis claims former Disney CEO Bob Chapek privately complained to him about the 'pressure' he was under from woke Left to wade in on Florida's 'Don't say gay' bill. Please let us know how it goes. More here: https://bit.ly/WoodlawnJaneDoe. Ms Drinkwater was seen by her mother in the distance. Lets deduce, her killer was obviously male, or were they, unless they had extracted the sperm from another person it is definite that they are a male, so we have a male, s/ that narrows it down. It is currently one of the oldest active cold cases in the UK. It became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder - but who killed Muriel Drinkwater? Thank you for all your assistance in this matter, the information you have provided has proved to be very helpful. Some people turn to the murder weapon for answers and suggest that the killer was either an American serviceman who had previously been stationed at Penllergaer or that an American soldier may have sold the gun to the perpetrator in the village. Now cutting-edge forensics to rival any TV thriller have identified her killers DNA, Unsolved: The Little Red Riding Hood murder, Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police, The Disappearance of Audrey Moran and Jonathan Reynoso. [15] There is evidence that Harries was employed by Drinkwater's father, John, at the time of her death. Due to advances in forensic technology, we have been able to look again at evidence from the murder in 1946 and I am now able to rule out Harold Jones completely as a suspect in this case.. Muriel Drinkwater lived on a farm known at Tyle-Du at Penllergaer and attended Penllergaer Grammar School. Her mother seen her approaching 400 yards away, so perhaps she was a selected victim. Click here to hear the Audio File of this case. [8][4], In 2003, detectives re-opened the case in the hope of finding DNA evidence on the gun, but were not successful as too many people had handled the weapon. She was pulled from that path into the woodland beside it, attacked and murdered amongst the undergrowth of Penllergaer Woods, near Swansea, just yards from safety. We got a partial profile, given that it was the oldest cold case with a semen stain on it that we had been working on.". "We had access to the files and identified that a semen stain had been found on the coat. Moments before being brutally attacked, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater had waved to her mother, who stood at the kitchen window, as she made her way home from Gowerton High School along the long path that led to the family home. So with that revelation the re-opened inquiry could have cost 15 million or more as did the Gwent Police inquiry into the disgraced former Abertillery care home owner Dr Dana Pras. They also announced in May 2019 that Abertillery double child killer Harold Jones had also been cleared of Muriels murder. Does his daughter have a son.? She was was found murdered in 1980 in a field in Dixon, CA. [3] In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest sample in the world to be successfully extracted in a murder investigation. Her killer has never been caught and it remains among the most notorious unsolved murders in Welsh history you can read more of them here. 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She had been attacked on the lane and then she was dragged to where the body was left.". Video, 00:00:41, Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. 'All historic murder cases, often referred to in the media as 'cold cases,' are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. will do what you suggest. I was able to edit the comment for you before it went live. "That sounds pompous, but I knew that really he was a simpleton, but I didn't detect any menace in him.". Click hereto hear the Audio File of this case. The Photo Request has been fulfilled. They had been regular churchgoers, but stopped going to church and moved away from the farm within two years of the murder. Police believed 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater (left) might have been a victim of a notorious serial killer Harold Jones when she was raped and murdered in 1946. Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. The unanswered question, however, is whether or not the killer was specifically waiting for Muriel or if any girl or woman who happened by would have made a suitable target. Ms Darby says: "He denied killing his relatives at all. Learn more about managing a memorial . I am in regular contact with a niece of Muriel Drinkwater who has told me that members of her family gave South Wales Police samples of their D.N.A.. Nevertheless, the FBI was called in to assist with determining the ownership of the murder weapon, but nothing seems to have ever transpired from this lead. programme called Crime Secrets presented by H.T.Vs Jonathan Hill. There are, of course, other theories regarding who was lying in wait on that fateful day. Take a second to support Christine on Patreon! The True Crime Files She was last seen at 2:30 p.m., singing as she headed for the one-mile walk to her family's home, Tyle-Du Farm. Her blue coat, underwear and school uniform had been wrapped in a paper bag and stored. But they said the results now ruled out Jones as a suspect in her murder. Police and soldiers search the area for clues of Muriel's murder, A picture of Muriel's schoolmates with flowers for her grave, Freda Burnell (left) and Florence Little (right) - Jones' first victims, At 35-years-old Jones is released from prison, only to vanish. Thomas was born on July 22 1880, in South Thomaston Knox Maine. Video, 00:01:20, WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech, EU Chief on NI deal: 'We were honest with each other' Video, 00:00:36, EU Chief on NI deal: 'We were honest with each other', The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives. Video, 00:01:18, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story, WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech. This murder shook the village and all the boys came under suspicion. And we appreciate your dogged determination to get to the bottom of what happened. Arrested once again, Jones this time pleaded guilty to the charge of murder at aMonmouthcourt in November 1921. Talk about a case hitting close to home for you! The electoral register having been suspended because of the war means details are hazy about where he ended up - although he did eventually resurface in South London under the name Harry Stevens, leading some to believe he was also Jack The Stripper - the serial killer who battered and strangled a number of women across the capital during the 1960s. [4] In 2019, the DNA was used to rule out notorious Welsh murderer Harold Jones as a suspect. Your email address will not be published. Wales documentary screened at 10.30pm on Sunday 8 November 2020 spent a full 5 minutes suggesting that 2 books found in a Carmarthen bookshop recently had been taken from Muriels schoolbag in 1946 as trophies by the killer. There is no doubt about that.". Fifteen days later, Jones murdered 11-year-old neighbour Florence Little too, hiding her body in the attic of his parents' home. Todays' video is about the true crime story of the unsolved murder of 12 year old Muriel Drinkwater in 1946. Accountant Graham Wildin built an incredible 10,000sq/ft leisure complex - which has a bowling alley, casino, a cinema and more - at the back of his home. 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Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was a choirgirl who dreamed of being a schoolteacher. (My belief now is that the suspect he referred to was Hubert Hoyles who as a 13 year-old boy had come into contact with Muriels family shortly before her murder. During the course of the investigation the finger of blame had sometimes been pointed at Muriel's father, John. Edith Patten had been buried in the old town cemetery and was left behind when officials relocated the graves in the 1930s. Muriel, who lived on Tyle-Du farm at Penllergaer, near Swansea, went missing on Thursday, June 27th, 1946, and her body was found next day in Penllergaer woods. Forensic historian Nell Darby found similarities in the case of Muriel Drinkwater and the later Ronnie Harries farmhouse murders in old newspaper articles from the time. Video, 00:00:41Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. 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